@moonchild I had written an angry reply to the first part of your message where you say you have 0 respect for "being that open", but then I read the rest and It's surprising that I actually agree with part of what you said, and I like what you said, you put in words things that I like to remember.
But then I have to ask, who here are "selling" their bodies?
And also I didn't get that last part very well, the one about being weak and persevering. Without what you call "weakness" 1/2 the world population would not exist. What you bash so nicely is the origin of new life - and you are judging it. Heck if sex wasn't involved 3/4 of the people wouldn't have seen any reason to marry.
And what's that last part about "persevering"? I'd rather pretend that I didn't understand it (and frankly I don't think I did)
moonchild wroteand of course if you love your partner you would immediately make it a formal engagement.
What's so sure about that?